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and lesbian and people with disabilities and throughout our history we have found too many ways to divide and exclude people from their ownership of the law and protection under the law. >> clinton cited a stunning statistic from the brennan center for justice. in 2013 alone, more than 80 bills have been introduced in 31 states to restrict voting rights. eight states have passed voter i.d. laws or laws to reduce early voting including the latest. north carolina where the governor signed that bill into law just yesterday. let me bring in ma lika hence and lynn sweet. good morning. >> more than 80 bills restricting voting rights in 31 states. the justice department is already going after texas to try to test the supreme court decision. does the speech do you think give any momentum to that cause to expand voting rights since she chose this as her focus?
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>> i think it does. i think you've had a situation where although the conversation around voting, i.d.s it has been on the left primarily and in small pockets in the civil rights community as well. i think hillary clinton brings it into the mainstream in way it hasn't been before, but i also think this north carolina law could also be a tipping point because the argument that conservatives have made around voter i.d. laws has been voter fraud by this rath of restrictions used and signed into law in north carolina doesn't really address a voter fraud which in some ways snolt a problem in north carolina but the idea you're shutting down voting on a sunday and the item you're eliminate 16 and 17-year-olds the ability to register early, it seems to be capturing a wide swath of folks in north carolina can you see folks really looking at these and thinking that it might be
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overreach from conservatives. >> i want to play another clip if i can from hillary clinton last night. >> there are many problems in life that we can't fix, at least not quickly, but preserving fairness and equality in our voting system is one we can and we should. >> what do you make of the fact, lynn, obviously, she went before the american bar association and this is obviously a legal question but there are lao different things she could have chosen to talk about. do you read anything to the fact it was voting rights? >> absolutely. we could do an analysis here but, in short, chris, it's very much a democratic issue, not a republican issue. but you could package it in a way, as she did, it's really a fairness issue for everyone, those this is -- with other aspects of civil rights law as well as pure youth law and youth access to voting so you get a lot done in this one issue in a short time. >> i want to bring in judy brown
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who is a codirector of the advancement process. let's start with north carolina voter i.d. law because that was something hillary clinton specifically called out last night. she said it represents the greatest hits of voter discrimination. you filed the lawsuit to challenge this already. on what grounds? >> sure. we filed a lawsuit on behalf of north carolina naacp which is leading the coalition that is the forward together movement that has been engaging in moral mondays and engaging in civil disobedience to push back on the state legislature. the lawsuit challenges the law just signed by the governor by saying it is discriminatory under the voting rights act. it is unof the first cases that has been filed after supreme court's case. we know that, for example, early voting in north carolina, 70% of african-americans who voted in 2012 vote by early voting so we
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know it disproportionately impact voters of color and young voters who turned out in record numbers in the past two election cycles. >> north carolina's governor put up a two-h htwo-minute video de his position. >> many of those from the extreme left who have been criticizing photo i.d. are using scare tactics. they are more interested in divisive politics than ensuring that no one's vote is disenfranchised by fraudulent ballot. >> among the things he said beyond, that judy, was that polls show people in north carolina are for this, that those who have to go and get i.d.s will be able to get them for free. what would you say to him? >> i mean, you know, this law is an -- law that really double down on the war on voting. not only does it put in place i.d. and doesn't even allow college i.d.s to be used and has really strict, we have strict voting requirements. we have a 92-year-old woman who
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is a plaintiff in this case and has voted since the 1940s when literacy tests were in place and she wouldn't be able to vote under this law. they are moving the clock backwards instead of providing free, fair, and accessible elections for all, they are making it harder to vote. i think this law shows that this state has decided to take us backwards, that when we have just had a strike at the voting rights act by the supreme court, this state has decided to take advantage of that and we are not going to let that happen. >> i also want to ask you about a couple of other big decisions yesterday. here is "the new york times" headline. two powerful signals of a major shift on crime and it combines a judge's decision that new york city stop and frisk policy violates civil rights and eric holder's announcement to change the way low level drug offenders are prosecuted. a spokesman for the alcu said these are hugely symbolic and
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significant events. do you agree with that? >> oh, clearly. it is a big win against a system that racially profiles people for mass incarceration. we in this country -- even at the state level -- we have seen real gains in turning back on mass incarceration. the stop and frisk policy in new york city is clearly unequal, allows for racial profiling. when you have 88% of those people who are stopped and frisked being innocent, we know that that law should not -- that policy should not stand. and so, i mean, it's a big shift and a very big win for criminal justice reform in this country. >> when you look at these two decisions yesterday and you look at the battle that's going on for voters rights, do you get the sense that somehow in the big picture of the civil rights movement, we are, at this moment in 2013, at something of a turning point or a critical
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juncture? >> we have made such significant gains in this country. but clearly what we have seen over the past few years with regard to voting in particular shows us that we can't be complacent and that there are those who don't want everyone to participate in our democracy. so we have a long way to go. we know after the zimmerman acquittal that we have a a lot of work to do with regard to racial profiling and really in having a discussion on race in this country. so, i mean, i'm always hopeful but i do think that this signals that we are not quite there yet. we are not at the dream that martin luther king jr. talked about in august of 1963. >> almost 50 years ago exactly. thank you for being on the program. new york city's mayor michael bloomberg was pretty defiant yesterday and said he is appealing the decision on the
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judge's stop and frisk:there is just no question that stop and frisk has saved countless lives and we know most of those lives saved, based on the statistics, have been black and hispanic young men. >> these are the statistics he is talking about. in 1990 murders at all-time high. 2,045 and now in 2012, 418. he says this is saving lives in the minority community. >> well, you know, folks in minority communities, black and brown communities in new york certainly don't feel like they want to subject their sons and daughters to these stop and frisk laws which they feel are painting people with a broad brush and in some way sowing a discontent in those communities. blookberg in many ways was defending his own legacy. this is part of his legacy, stop
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and frisk. the judge came down saying they should follow philadelphia's model which has more oversight. we will see what happens but it's no surprise he was defiant in defending himself. >> are you suggesting there maybe be some middle ground on stop and frisk? >> the judge talked about this in her ruling. in philadelphia they had a lawsuit in 2008 and settled before it went to court and it's certainly more oversight in terms of how they apply stop and frisk and you have some people paying maybe it's plig this law more evenly. maybe more white people on the upper west side. i think eugene robinson said if it was applied more equally across racial demographics maybe people wouldn't think it was so unfair in terms of singling out young black and brown men. >> that struck me too when gene said that this morning on "morning joe." there was a stark contrast, lynn, eric holder saying essentially the justice system is broken. >> announce today that the
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justice department will take a series of significant actions to recalibrate america's federal criminal justice system. we will start by fundamentally rethinking the notion of mandatory minimum sentences for drug-related crimes. >> there's no decision that has ever made that is not without controversy, but your reaction to that decision yesterday. >> well, holder said it very well when he said we are coldly efficient in our incarceration efforts in the united states and he wants to uncuff judges and let them use their discretion in sentencing especially for these nonviolent drug offenders who aren't part of a drug cartel. my reaction he wants to make this as part of his legacy. we know has been discussed a lot of these defenders in federal prisons are african-americans
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and holder cited a study yesterday that african-american men get 20% longer sentences than white men for the same offense. clearly there's a lot to be done to fix the problem. >> i think the number is 5% of the population of all the word is in the united states and 25% of its prisoners are here. >> no. i think that's right. they talked about it in numbers. 80 billion or so a year but in terms of the lost sort of contributions to a community, the lost contributions to the family, the lost contributions to the economy, i think that's also a way of looking at it and it hasn't really worked. we haven't really stemmed the tide of this sort of prison pipeline. so i think holder certainly looking at his legacy. he wants to be a civil rights attorney general and he is well on his way to becoming that. >> it's also -- it's interesting. this is an issue that unites civil libertarians and libertarians. >> very interesting point.
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>> rand paul, he put forward a bill that would do the same thing that holder actually did. so yeah, i think you're getting strange bedfellows throughout this bill. >> to be continued, i'm sure on all three of these counts. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. atlanta braves fan who fell more than 60 feet from an upper level platform has died. 29-year-old ronald homer fell during a rain delay at turner field. autopsy is scheduled but police believe this was just a terrible accident. this is the second fatal fall at turner field since it opened in 1996. is betsy. her long day of pick ups and drop offs begins with arthritis pain... and a choice. take up to 6 tylenol in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. all aboard. ♪ at humana, our medicare agents sit down with you and ask. being active. and being with this guy.
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a new poll and a new interview for anthony weiner desperately trying to keep his political career alive.
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he sat down for a wide ranging interview with buzz feed last night and it's notable that what got a lot of buzz were comments about the political impact on his life huma abedin. >> is huma still working on the campaign? >> she is helping out every day. >> do you know what her role in hillary is in the 2016 campaign going to be? >> i do. >> and what is it going to be? >> i'm not telling you. >> do you feel you've damaged her place in that world? >> i feel what i have done take hurt her. it's hurt her professional and it's hurt her personally. >> then the new siena college poll showing the following. let me bring in bud and chris. good to see both of you. 45 minutes on buzz feed. he knocked "the new york times," his opponents. did he do himself any favors last night? >> i think we expected him to
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come to this venue and use the opportunity to kind of be a littleself deprecating and make a few jokes. >> you have a young audience. >> they are probably well acquainted with sexting and i think had he a good opportunity to, you know, say, yeah, this was a dopey thing to do. instead he was incredibly combative and key he defiant and cranky at times. i don't know if he won anyone over but we were glad to have him come and answer our questions. >> as i was watching this, i was thinking about your article, chris. i was thinking about new york city mayor is a big job and it's had big political characters. rudy giuliani and mike bloomberg and ed koch and john lindsey but it feels like this race has become small. >> following mike bloomberg is a large part of that context. whether it's stop and frisk or
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economic recovery or the fact he is a multibillionaire, you know, by comparison a lot of these folks are going to seem run-of-the-mill. they are career politicians by and large and that is one thing they are fighting against. did weiner do himself any good with the chat? i do think so in some ways. >> really? how? >> what he has continued to argue and what he argued yesterday again is that i'm tough enough to push through this. >> have you to be tough to be mayor of new york. >> exactly. he does talk about policy and some smart ways. but he certainly is the defensive here. he has had trouble getting past it certainly in a media sense. he is spending way more time than he expected talking about what he did online and, yeah, he's always had a cranky side to him but getting beaten up in these polls don't help. >> let me play another clip and we will continue the conversation. >> a victim of late. a victim with someone else.
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embarrassing. i did it during a slow period. people who made fun of this reporters who reported it. >> a giggle in there, right? he said i did it but he almost immediately says it was a slow news cycle. >> i just love that. repeatedly throughout he blames the news media. at one point he issued this blistering critique of the "the new york times." he made fun of buzz feed. in the first question we asked why are voters 78% of new yorkers or something have a negative opinion of you? why are voters treating you or so much more harshly than bill clinton during his sex scandal? his first answer was the coverage has been brutal. as though it's the news media's fault. i think that he says he kaem into this knowing that the news media would be obsessed with his past, with the sex scandal but it's almost like he has gotten really sick of it and he is tired of talking about it. >> he is right that the coverage has been brulth. >> it has.
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>> objectively, that is true. running against the media and pla complaining about the media, not novel. what think is essential to his reaction here he understands he has a fundamental problem. he's very smart on policy. but he is asking voters to trust him to run new york city and what votes, whether they have a moral problem with what he did or not, the judgment to do it and stand up there and lie about it initially people have a lot of trouble getting past that saying i'm going to trust this guy as mayor of new york city even if he is smart, even if he has good policy ideas, how could he be so stupid to have done this in the first place? >> the question for the ages. thanks to both of you for coming in. great conversation. it is primary day in new jersey to fill the senate seat vacated by the death of frank lautenberg. booker is the favorite.
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booker cast his vote today. he has a 37.advantage in the polls and taking no chances and appeared yesterday with eva longoria. he has faced criticism with the start-up company way wire and talked about that with kasie hunt. >> before i thought about running for the united states senate helping get the business off of all the ground. and a lot of people found that idea interesting and invested in the idea. the reality is now i'm a candidate and i do believe we have requirements for transparency and disclosure and we have gone above and beyond what the candidates in this race have submitted to nerms terms o disclosure. >> republican side getting less attention.
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president obama will turn from hitting the links to hitting the road next week.
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the president who has golfed during both days of his vacation so far is going on a bus tour to promote his plan to encourage middle class yob creation and he'll be going to new york and pennsylvania. michelle obama has recruited big name performers to her let's move campaign to fight childhood obesity. officials voted monday to ban a clown who morked president obama at the missouri state fair over the weekend. the clown had worn a mask of the president and encouraged a bull to run him down. sometimes you can't always go home again. disgraced san diego mayor bob filner, accused of sexually harassing 17 women have completed behavioral therapy but may not be able to get back in his office. apparently, someone had the locks changed! a spokesman for the city's
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president tomorrow, you could probably [ inaudible ] to do it. >> you could probably get the votes in the house of representatives to do it. it is the latest in a series of attacks against obama. but do they have any real purpose except to rile up the base? i'm joined by jason stanford and political contributor for msnbc robert trainem. former senior adviser to president bush. good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> good morning. >> fairenhold is speaking at this town hall in texas and he did argue defense impeachment but not, robert, because it would be -- there is no basis in high crimes and misdemeanors because he said it wouldn't pass the senate. what is the point? >> is there no point. actually, is the there is a poi. he is speaking to a small constituency in texas. there is no basis for this whatsoever.
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the reason why you impeach someone, in other words, bill clinton or richard nixon or somebody like that the body meaning the congress and the senate perhaps believe the president did something wrong and violated his constitution. president obama has not done that. we could be working how to work together and lower taxes and implement a very unpopular obama care. these are really serious issues we need to be talking about and sit here and talk about impeachment of our pros is ridiculous. >> not only that, but also talking about the birther issue. donald trump was on that over the weekend and here is farrenhold. >> i think that, unfortunately, the horse is already out of the barn on this on the whole birth certificate issue. i'm not sure how we fix it. >> jason, obviously, besides
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appealing to that small group of texans, we do hear this from time to time, it doesn't go away. is this about fund-raising? firing up the base? what is it? >> this isn't a very small group. this is the republican based vote. grand, it's texas and texas is the high church of stupid republican ideas. but this is a good example of how the republican party is now not a responsible partner in governing our country. the best part of this there is a subset of birthers in this country who know that obama was born in hawaii but don't know that hawaii is a state. i mean, this is the level of dumb we are dealing with here and it's really hard to fix it. blake farenthold said you can't fix stupid in texas. that's what you're dealing with here. >> there are some other issues out there. mitchell mcconnell calling on the white house to delay the opening of exchanges. do you think, robert, there is a
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real security concern here or is this just more part of the attempts by republicans to delay and eventually repel obama care? >> you know, some of the votes in the house, chris, at the house republicans tried to do the last 35 or 40 times have been a bunch of just silly talk. however, i do think senator mcconnell does have a point here about security. every time we open up the newspaper or something like that, we are hearing about hacking and we are hearing about security, we are hearing about our privacy being compromised, in other words, the national security agency and so forth. the question, quite frankly, this is a legitimate question any united states senator or congressman should ask the administration are you confident that our -- there are safeguards in place for our privacy to be protected? unfortunately, the administration doesn't have a very good answer for that. i think senator mcconnell is on something here. the question is, quite frankly, is whether or not the administration has a substantive responsible to a serious question. >> another series of questions
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asked this morning in an op-ed by jeb bush accusing the president of distracting the country what he calls a phony recovery. he talks about corporate earnings and retail sales and existing home sales being done. jason, it sounded like a candidate, as i read it. what do you make of him? >> oh, god bless him. jed bush doesn't have a prayer. it isn't that mcconnell raised the issue. the inspector general found the issue. mcconnell is facing a tough tea party challenger in kentucky and he is losing to the presumed democratic nominee down there. the republican interest is not in responsible governance. they don't want to fix obama care. they want to kill it and do it by delaying it to death and why mcconnell is raising this. they cannot give obama credit for the economic recovery here. their only interest is in stopping obama by killing his ideas 37 that is what is going on here. >> we are out of time. good to see you guys.
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thank you. >> thank you. >> checking the news feed geologists say a sinkhole in disney world may be getting bigger and it may be caused by too much rain. former mob boss whitey bulger will likely spend the rest of his life behind bars. he was convicted yesterday for his involvement in 11 murders and dozens of other crimes. he still faces murder charges in oklahoma and florida and both states have the death penalty and they will decide whether to prosecute him after he is sentenced in boston. this morning, hannah anderson is reunited with her family in southern california but police say while she was on the run with her alleged kidnapper james dimaggio, she had no idea he had also allegedly killed her mother and brother. han no told investigators when fbi agents moved in, dimaggio opened fire first before agent shot him. yesterday, her father thanked everyone involved in the search. >> as for my daughter, the
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johnny weir join thomas roberts the next hour. she grew up believing she was related to amelia earhart shares just a name with the famous flyer. a team of researchers were hired to look into her ancestry. the modern day amelia says she still hopes to become the youngest woman to fly around the world. never one to mince words. larry ellison predicts apple is doomed without cofounder steve jobs. mandy, he was clear about what he was thinking? >> he was. he doesn't mince his words and made it clear he thinks apple could be lost without that cofounder steve jobs. in the interview where we learned this, chris, was with charlie rose. i've got a little except for you so let's take a listen. >> so what happens to apple without steve?
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>> we already know. >> what? >> we saw. we conducted the experiment. we saw apple with steve jobs. we saw apple without steve jobs. we saw apple with steve jobs. now we are going to see apple without steve jobs. >> so ellison and jobs i should say were close friends. nonetheless in terms of the stock today, apple is back above 200 and moving average for the first time this year and hitting a six-month high. so clearly, at this stage, is not having a negative impact. >> maybe much anticipation for the upcoming new iphone. everybody is buzzing about billionaire inventor here. >> i would be the first person to put my hand up and dogo. he was the cofounder of paypal and the electric car company testla and he has shown off the
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exchange for starting peace talks. >> i don't think get punishment. they should be in there at least to serve life sentence. after 20 years out? victory in their hand? a very sad day for the families, for the israels and for society. >> former middle east ambassador mark ginsburg joins me now. >> it is one of the preconditions the palestinians insisted they extracted from the israel government and let's understand these are not just prisoners who did some -- engaged in shop-lifting or throwing stones. these are prisoners that have actually committed murder and have proven blood on their hands. so clearly this is something that does not come easy to an
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israel society that doesn't want to see these prisoners relieved. on the other hand, of course, on the palestinian side, they are viewed as heroes. so this is the great divide as we know in the mentalities that exist between the palestinians and israeli. >> israel is announcing it is building new settlements and jo kerry said yesterday the united states opposes. >> we have communicated the policy very clearly to our friends in israel and we have worked very closely with the palestinians in order to try to make certain that everybody understands what the road forward will be like. >> but then john kerry added that the announcement of the settlements were to some degree expected that they shouldn't affect the peace process but will it? >> well, every time there's another nail hammered into
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another settlement in the best west bank is clearly drives a head in the coffin of a future palestinian state. and chris, the fact of the matter is that you can look at this any number of ways. the israelis announced this additional settlement construction to limit the blow of dynamic of relieving these prisoners and you can argue this is another argument of benefjam netanyahu. the bottom line is the bottom line. every time additional funds provided to settlements in the west bank that are actually formally illegal. we are not talking about the settlements that the palestinians understands is part of a long-term israel agreement. they, in effect, impair the possibility of a viable palestinian state. >> in the meantime, let me ask you what is going on in egypt.
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reports of clashes this this morning between the demonstrators. our reporter there was just told that 12 have already been arrested today. hundreds were involved in the altercation. where is this going, ambassador? >> oh, chris, amman is absolutely right. we are watching in effect the early stages of what is essentially going to be, i'm afraid to say, a very bloody confrontation between the military that is determined to basically clear the cairo streets of these encampments and muslim brotherhood supporters that are determined to stay there. we are about to watch what essentially is an extraordinarily bad game of political chicken engaged in the streets of cairo because neither side is prepared to give ground and it doesn't look like a happy picture for those people who are there when the military is determined to act. >> so there is nothing very briefly that you can see
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happening that will keep this from devolving even further? >> i think the military, the military leadership that is controlling the show in cairo has basically given these protesters another few days, trying to find a quiet way to prevent the inevitable confrontation but despite the mediation has taken place as you know, senator mccain and senator graham were there a couple of days so mediate this dispute, the military made it clear to the united states, we don't want your advice, with we don't want your senators telling us what to do. we don't care what you intend to do as a result. we intend to take back the streets of cairo. it's not a message that is going to resonate very fairly in washington in the next few days. >> ambassador mark ginsburg, good to see you. thanks. >> thanks, chris. if detroit didn't have enough problems filing for bankruptcy. politico poise onts out billboa in detroit advertise the wrong date for the city's general election.
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celebrity chef paula deen is she on a comeback trail? the case was thrown out against her saying her accuser was white and not the target of the discrimination. it was during a deposition in the case, though, that deen admitted using racial slurs in the past and that cost her a big chunk of her food empire. why does this leave deen in the court of public opinion? howard, good to see you. >> hello. >> as miss deen has stated before she is confident that those who truly know how she lives her life know that she believes in equal opportunity, kindness, and fairness for everyone. does this help her in her fight to come back?
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>> it certainly helps her but she is not coming back whole. it's not like it's over. she still has to go through a court case and all of the people who left her and abandoned her ban are not coming back and say -- >> $12 million worth in endorsements in deals. >> $12 million a year. >> yeah. >> tens of millions and perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars. they are not going to rush back but this gives her a chance to really start to climb out of the hole. i always tell people, you fall in the hole in about two minutes and it can take years to climb out of this hole. >> what does it take for someone to get out of a hole like this? >> the first thing she has to do is get this court case behind her. i still would encourage her to settle this court case. >> a lot of people said why didn't she do that in the first place? >> that was her first mistake. that was the worst mistake she made letting a million dollar lawsuit take down her empire. we see how the judge ruled, he understands this doesn't have
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merit. i'm going to fight this but you got to take the emotion out of it and you have to say this is a business. >> so she ends up going on the "today" show and does this big interview. let me just remind people with a clip of that from several weeks ago. >> and i have apologized. i would never, never -- and i can truthfully say in my life, i have never, with any intention, hurt anybody on purpose and i never would. >> and since then, she has been laying pretty low. do you that i is part of her strategy, just let time heal things? >> time is one of the great things. a lot of celebrities say i'm really, you know, public loves me, i can get out and i can charm them with my intelligence, my wit but you have to tell them to shut up! and sit on their hands and it's hard top and she has new pr counsel and has done a good job of laying low and put this court
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case behind her and she can rebuild slowly. >> she still has people who like her and continue to defend her. a lot of her supporters just in the general public. so i suppose it's possible? >> well, i would advise the brand to make it a collaboration between her and her sons instead of the paula deen brand and take some of those relationships that were jeopardy and move them to the family and it's also a succession plan which is very good for any business. so i think that is how i would suggest she handle it. >> howard bragman offering some free advice to paula deen. thanks. that wraps up this hour of jansing and co. thomas roberts is up next. >> good morning, everybody. the agenda next hour. did anthony weiner out hillary clinton's intentions to make a 2016 run for the white house? hear from him yourself and decide. former secretary clinton has a strong defense for voting rights and against the new restricted
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cameras and took to youtube to respond to critics. >> many of those from the extreme left who have been criticizing photo i.d. are using scare tactics. they are more interested in divisive politics than ensuring that no one's vote is disenfranchised by fraudulent ballot. >> this is new york's mayor is vowing to fight a court defeat of the controversial policing tactic known as stop and frisk. a visibly irritated bloomberg didn't hold back his feelings about that ruling. >> this is a dangerous decision made by a judge who i don't think understands how police works and what is compliant with the u.s. constitution as determined by the supreme court. >> it seems to me there's a fairly simple solution which is stop and frisk some white people

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